Below is a selection of unsolicited comments from visitors to this web site. If they provided their name, only their first name and last initial is noted. If they sent their comment without their name, their e-mail address is listed. From this point on, any unsolicited comments received that illustrates either the bigotry, intolerance, and/or ignorance of the visitor, will be posted on this page with their full name. I am sorry to say that many of
the comments were from members of the BSA who are supposed to live by the Scout Oath and Law. It seems that the BSA might wish to take some time to reflect what those words really require a person to do.
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:50:56 -0500 (EST)
Dear Sir or Madame:
Hello! My son is an Eagle Scout. I have taken college psychology and criminal justice classes. In them I have learned about FBI statistics and that the percentage of men who molest boys are married, white, obviously faux Christian men with children of their own (which is a crime in itself) that commit this crime and not homosexual men. If there is a way to screen ALL (for legal reasons) men to see if anyone has ever molested them, and whether or not their parents or they had moral
sense enough to seek psychological counseling to properly deal with their past, that would be the best be. It would also be wise to counsel scouts and leaders about getting professional help should that have happened to them. That seems to deter the behavior of in the future them becoming rapists or pedophiles as a result of childhood sexual abuse. Gay men are people I would expect to save my life, whereas I can sadly speak from experience that heterosexual so called religious
men are downright EVIL and self serving. That is my life experience.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:56:31 -0800 (PST)
I was shocked, but not, unfortunately, surprised by the quality of hate expressed by
those who disagree with your excellent, well-researched, and up-to-date site.
I think it's "Americans" like that who give this country a bad name. And, increasingly, private donors and public entities are agreeing, witholding support and funding.
Once the BSA National Council takes enough hits to its collective pocket-book and finally accepts that they are the ONLY one still pandering to the homo-haters, THEN we'll see a change.
At the present rate of progress, I'd think that that will happen around the year 2025.
It's fifteen years away, but that should be enough time for BSA to realize that their policy is just that: BS.
In the meantime, let me recommend "Scouting for All" - an organization started by a straight Scout and his parents, who would not kow-tow to the discriminatory policy put into effect 19 years ago.
Subject: thank you from the mother XXXXXXX
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:44:15 -0800
Thank you for this site. I did not know the level of discrimination in BSA until I started rearching it.
For those who criticize this site, perhaps they need to look beyond BSA official policy and see what they are actually doing.
My now ex-husband had affairs with at least 3 other married scout leaders during our marraige. Two of the husband divorced their wives after finding out about the affairs. (the other husband passed away during the affair). Even more alarming, he was taking her as his date to order of the arrow, wood badge and other scouting
events. Other leaders and BSA council executives were aware of the behavior and covered it up for him. Even the other boys knew what was going on and harassed my son. He is now living with one of his mistresses (she is more than 15 years his senior, but that's a different story). They are the scoutmaster and asst scoutmaster for jamboree. Whatever happened to two deep leadership???? This is a strict policy to protect boys, but BSA is ignoring it.
He was on the Nebraska child abuse registry in 2004 and was investigated for child abuse 3 times in 2009 in two different states. Charges were referred in Iowa. BSA was made aware of this. I offered to sign releases so they could interview my son, the investigators, the police, his doctor, his therapist and the school guidance counselor. They said they didn't need to investigate anything. Because of the
leaders who were protecting my husband's sexual behavior, I couldn't count on them to protect my son, so he had to change troops.
I have a court order prohibiting him from taking our daughter on overnight scout trips due to his obsession with pornography (particularly web sites on barely legal teens in Asia and magazines focusing on the pleasures of incest). He immediatley violated this order and several other leaders including the scoutmaster covered it up
for him. I contacted the council to see what they would do to protect my daughter and to let me know if it happened again. They told me it wasn't their problem.
He has now left his old troop but refuses to turn over the troop's property - including computer programs, social security numbers, health ins. info and medical info on the boys. Naturally, BSA says this isn't their problem.
BSA may talk a good talk, but they have no follow through. They do not even follow the values of their own scout oath. They do not care that they have a registered child abuser as a scoutmaster. the only reason my son is still in scouts at all is because he is going into the military and the eagle scout will help him out.
And for those who believe that the BSA insurance will cover injuries that their
children sustain. IT DOESN"T. My son was injured XXXXXXXXX and I got stuck with those medical bills in the divorce decree.
So please keep telling people to question what BSA is really saying. They do not really care about family values, as I have realized too late. And if you are a scout in either Nebraska or Iowa, be careful - your leader may be a sexually obsessed child
abuser and/or adulterer and these will be the family values that are child will be taught.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:54:00 -0700
Thank you for this web site and the information it contains. I was completely against my 2 sons going into scouts because of discrimination against gays and the incident involving Mike Huckabee's son while on a scout trip involving the brutalization and death of a stray dog. My husband was an Eagle scout and while
supportive of having his sons in scouts he also does not condone discrimination. My boys enjoy scouting but I will be an avid watchdog for any discrimination in our area. Thank you for keeping this information online and in full view of the public.
Date: August 22, 20009
From: David Christianson [email@example.com]
Your website and organization should be categorized as a hate group, total misguided and completely wrong-headed way of dealing with these issues.
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:39:32
I would like to point out to the many ignorant pro-Boy Scout people who posted on this comment page (many who sound appropriately hateful) that the Boy Scouts of (PART) of America can do what they please since it's a private organization-as the Supreme Court decided, but I, as an American 68 year old gay man, I do NOT want them meeting in our public schools, firehouses or other publicly funded buildings
that are paid for & maintained by my tax dollars.
I think it most extraordinary that in this day & age there are still Americans who would rather have our young gay boys commit suicide then become accepted, healthy, well adjusted contributing citizens.
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:26:29
To whom it may concern,
Is it really necessary to piss and moan about everything? Poor little gays and atheist's … the big bad BSA is picking on us. Would you like some cheese with that whine??? Why is it necessary to force your beliefs on people through use of the court system? Hmmm? Do you really believe that mainstream America is just
frothing at the mouth to welcome your lifestyle choices? I think NOT!!! Here's an idea … why not create your very own scouting organization(s) … you could call it the gay scouts or the atheist scouts. End of problem. Oh … and by the way … I happen to think that the Boy Scouts of America is perfect just the way it is.
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:53:22
Why don't you aclu assholes just admit that you can't stand ANYTHING traditional in the USA. This and all of your pathetic websites are disgraceful. I hope you jerkoffs burn in hell.
Wed, 12 Jul 2006 12:26:00
Seriously? Girls in the Boy Scouts? You're serious? Wow. I mean, come on. Seriously?
Honest to God, there's a Boy Scouts and a Girl Scouts. Everybody can scout, but at that age, boys like to play with boys and girls like to play with girls. Nothing
"discriminatory" there. You guys make universities keep an open number of spaces for men and women on college sports teams with your Title 9, but do you seriously want co-ed college sports teams? The UConn Persuns Basketball team?
Seriously, if this is the best fight you guys can find, I would say mission accomplished on the sexism front.
Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:00:18
Let me see if I understand you and your web site's objective correctly.
This past Saturday while shopping for Thanksgiving supplies at our local shopping mall, I encounter a number of groups teenagers roaming the mall, trying to
look and act cool. As we passed one particular group, one of the public school grads looked at my 14 year old daughter and said loud enough for all nearby to hear, "I'd like to F _ _ _ your brains out!." I won't go into the details of what ensued - instead I'll leave that to your imagination.
According to the implied and underlying objectives, I am a dirty rotten nasty
fellow, because I didn't invite this chap to my home for dinner on Thanksgiving? Is that what you are really trying to say?
Have a nice day.
Dead Eye <DeadEye@mindless.com>
Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:34:24
Atheism is a religion whose god is the SELF.
Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:14:51
I don't see why you feel the need to have a site to try to show the world that Scouting is a bad thing. You and all the other self-less bastards in our world are the ones who
make us look bad and make us out to be all gay. Maybe if you spent your time doing something worthwhile with your life, and not making Scouts look bad you would realize that a single scout does more than any normal lazy American's ass. It makes me sick to think people like you get sucked into the media and think this way about Scouting because Scouting is a great program.
Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:35:56
I see nothing at all wrong with the Boy Scouts practices and beliefs. It is a highly respectable and moral group and the aclu, while it was once a very respectable group, has in the last few decades, become a sham and a shame.
Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:28:07
You have a section about the LDS church and their opposition to the homosexual lifestyle which is true. The false reports are the statements by Dr. Michael Quinn. Just because someone was never married does not necessarily prove they are gay. I also did my homework and could find no solid evidence that Joseph F Smith was a
homosexual. There are a lot of anti-moromon books and everytime I read one and question their evidence I find it to be fraudulent. I recommend you question the material you recieve and try to determine if it is fact before you put it up on your website. Because of this I question how much of the information on this website is legite.
Thu, 08 Jul 2004 08:05:56
My name is Neil DXXXXX. I was looking up "Boy Scouts of America" on Google and I found your site. I have been in Boy Scouts since I was 5 years old. I am now a Tenderfoot Scout in BoySouts. I have lived in several different states and I have many freinds in almost all of the states, they are all in BoyScouts. I have contacted
them and they nor I have seen ,heard of any of the rubish that you have on your site. That may happen in some troops across the Nation, but you are makeing it sound like all of the BSA is bad. WELL IT'S NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sat, 18 Oct 2003 21:11:17
What a waste of bandwidth. Why does it bother you so much that we have freedom in the great country of ours? Especially freedom of association. Go start a competitive organization to compete with BSA if you don't like it. Don't force your view of what's right and wrong on this great organization.
Boy Scouting is a private organization. They have the RIGHT to set membership standards. Get over it and deal with it!
If you look at the good that comes from this great organization and what it does for young men, one must wonder why you want to destroy it!
If you stand for everything you stand for nothing. The greatest thing about scouting is that is has not back downed and cowered to the liberal fringe that is doing it's best to ruin this great nation of ours. It was founded on God and that is why it's the
greatest nation on the earth. Now people like those who sponsor this website think they know a better way. Thank God the Supreme Court upheld the constituion!!!
Yes I'm an Eagle Scout and involved in scouting as a leader. Yes I'm a member of a church sponsored scouting group.
Michael C. R.
Sun, 22 Jun 2003 19:32:10
You claim to understand and know the Boy Scouts of America. Obviously you don't and it is a good thing that the BSA stands the line against people like you who want to destroy the good things in America such as the boy Scots of America.
Go form your own groups, clubs and organizations and develop your own policies and do as you wish. But leave organizations that do not adhere to your policies
alone to conduct their own programs and goals. Why do you insist in destroying a program or organization that may not agree with your beliefs, go start your own. We'll whether the BSA survives and whether beyond yours.
Fri, 30 May 2003 10:37:54
The BSA should continue to dsicriminate against gays in their organization. Let the gays start their own 'scouts' if they want to. The 'gay agenda' is not what scouting is or should be about and is not in the best interests of young people. It is a further attempt to confuse youngsters and make 'normal' ANY and ALL SEXUAL BEHAVIORS.
30 May 2003 06:07:10
Good Morning !
I am and have been an avid supported of the traditional values that the Boy Scouts Of America have held as a standard for so many years.
As a youth in the late 50's and early 60's, I was a member of the Scouts as well
as our local Police Atheltic League (PAL) . These organizations helped to form character which was of paramount importance in developing youth that have a love of God and of country.
This morning on WMEL central Florida it was announced that the Philadelphia chapter of the Boy Scouts of America, has departed from the traditional values of the organization as a whole, and is now allowing gay's.
I personally believe that this rogue chapter should have their charter revoked unless they are willing to accept and practice the tenets of the Scouts.
Paul M. A.
Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:27:12
You obviously have some personal axe to grind with the Boy Scouts and obviously have not researched much of the information you put on your web site. You might be interested to know that BSA does allow girls in its organization. It is called Venturing and is open to teenage boys and girls through age 20.
Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:35:37
It's morons like you that continue to drive scouts away from BSA and into quasi organizations like Royal Rangers. Hopefully, BSA will continue to weather the storms of liberalism and keep true to the cause. It's you and your ilk that pervades society with your "accept my view or you're a bigot" stance. May the fleas of a
thousand Camels infest your living room!
Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:55:20 EST
I want you to know that I think you are full of it. I am a Cub Scout leader and also I am a female. BOTH my sons are heavily involved in Scouting which is based on
God and the belief in God, our country and a NORMAL lifestyle of family beliefs and morals. I don't think little girls need to be involved in BOY scouts, because they have their own organization. And I think by the beliefs of the BSA, if you don't believe in God don't join an organization that believes in God, and if your gay STAY OUT! Gays do not belong in the BSA due to their immoral beliefs. Some people in this
country have lost their morals, and believe that a sinful life style such as being gay is alright. Well you need to pick up the Holy Bible and read it sometimes. Maybe then, you would understand why God distroyed Sodom and Gomorah. Get a grip!
Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:12:46
You obviously believe that BSA should embrace the 3 G's and become an all inclusive organization. You also don't believe that an organization has the right to develop it's own ideals and extend an invitation to those who share those ideals with the caveat that if these ideals don't fit your views, move on and find another
organization that does. In my view, the 3G's of the world who try to force themselves on the BSA represents a new and disturbing type of human. These people want to live in a world where anything goes and everything is accepted. I guess this makes them feel more normal. In a way, these 3 G's are trying to force their "life's philosophy" on others including the BSA. I will tell you that I still belong to the mostly
silent majority but let it be known that I and others will fight with our voices, votes, and dollars to preserve those things we hold dear.
David F. B.
Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:19:55
Why would anyone on this earth want to join an organization when they do not believe in the things that the organization teaches and believes. If a person wants the recognition associated with a certain organization, then they must assume that they will be required to abide by the rules of that organization. If you do not want to abide by the rules of an organization, it is a free country and you may start your own
organization i.e. the Gay Scouts of America, the Boys Who Don't Believe in God Scouts of America, etc. A private organization does not have to change its rules because some person who wants to become a member feels the rules need to be changed or bent just for him. The Boy Scouts of America has done more good for the United States of America and the World than all the gays or athiests combined will ever do.
I am sure you have some sort of grudge against this organization, but after all it is a free country and you can say what ever you want. I believe that God will be the final judge.